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An answer to Why Java Sucks


The page http://tech.jonathangardner.net/wiki/Why_Java_Sucks lists some interesting arguments against Java – one of my favorite programming languages. It suggests to write down reasons for liking Java in the section Why Use Java at All? which I thought to be a good idea to follow especially with respect to evaluating other programming languages. The page specifically suggests the reader to try

  • Python
  • Lisp
  • Scheme
  • Haskell
  • C
  • other functional programming languages

Although the page wants me to try all of these languages before continuing to consider Java, I only tried Python, C and Prolog so far.

What's wrong in the article

Some of the points mentioned are wrong (probably not wrong but now wrong, i. e. obsolete).

  • Casting int to long is possible. The given example works for me.
  • Inner classes don't work. Inner classes work for me.
// $ javac Test.java
// $ java Test
// 0
// $
public class Test {

        private static class Sub {
                void myFunc(long arg) {

        public static void main(String[] args) {
                Sub s = new Sub();


Different opinion

Many of the drawbacks of Java mentioned in the page are rather based on opinion. Sometimes I prefer what is described as bad:

GC problems
A GC is nice to have. It just seems that the author's JVM is buggy (might even apply to many JVMs – they are possibly all buggy but that does not make the language bad).
Exceptions have to be catched. That is good. Also, the problem with methods returning null as error is a problem of the programmer who wrote the class. The Java Standard Libary has such functions as well but with newer Java versions they have added better alternatives.
Name clash
Why would one want to implement different functions with the same name for List<Long> and List<String>? If there is only slight difference in handling, it might be better to do generic list processing and do instanceof checks afterwards.
static methods and members, No globals means frameworks
I have been able to avoid the Singleton Pattern as well as addtional Frameworks. My programs still work and I do not find that limited. In the worst case, you can start passing around an object – still much cleaner than global variables.
No control on member access and import problems
In Java the same statement which does the same thing. It does not depend on anything at a completely different location in the code. If you set a member variable directly, no method is interferring. If you call a class name, it must be the class you expect. I find that good design and using the same class name in many packages rather bad (Java Standard Library does it itself, I know...)
You do not need to use camel case. It is just common convention.
What's wrong with additional classes – decoupling parts of your program is always a good idea, isn't it?
Iterators SUCK!
I do not want to know, how the standard library implements the Collection classes, but I would never want my code to throw any exception except for errors. Just waiting for the exception to mark the end is bad design in my opinion.
Function Pointers
The lack of function pointers is no problem if one designs object oriented which Java expects.


  • incompatible types – that seems to be a bug.
  • foreach doesn't take iterators
  • Methods With the Same Name as Constructors – bad design.
  • Run-time Dispatch: Fantasy – bad design
  • DNS Client Implementation – bug

Why Use Java at All?

My points for Java
  • Java is typed. When using variables, I always have a definite idea about it's type.
  • Java is platform-independent. Good Java programs run everywhere you can find a compliant JVM.
  • Java has a large and good standard library eventhough it still could be improved.
  • Java is as I expect it: C-like syntax, no superflous language constructs. Java is case-sensitive. Good Java is easy to read.
  • Java programs are highly debuggable. With the VisualVM you can monitor Java programs live and find out why they consume too much memory or such. Other languages require the user to start a debugger which consumes so much processor time and memory that the application to debug never reaches the probelmatic state you want to debug.
  • Java faciliates the use of classes and objects stronger than most other languages I know. Object orientation is only compromised by the use of the Singleton Pattern and Global variables through frameworks. But that is the programmer's fault: I do not do it.
  • Java is stable: Large amounts of data can be processed with almost no limitatinons except for the hardware. I have experienced many C-programs crash with large data inputs while Java programs often tend to use more memory but are still able to process that much data. In a way it is the C programmers fault, but Java easifies writing stable programs.
  • Java programs are small as long as you stay with the standard library and probably one or the other special library required for your application. (Surely this applies to Python as well).
My points against Java
  • byte in Java is signed. That is bad, because there are always casts to int involved if you want to manage bytes directly.
  • The standard library has aged a bit and is only slowly replaced by better alternatives.
  • Java programmers tend to throw half of the standard library away for alternatives which are not ultimately better but always add hundreds of megabytes to their program.
  • Java is So Hard People Prefer to Write Code in XML, Jython, Scala, and Clojure – a sad truth
  • Documentation with HTML-documentation-comments often hurts code-readability.
  • Java lacks simple system integration – The Java native interface is really difficult to handle: A task like Create a virtual filesystem serving the documents directly from the database becomes a real problem.

Compared to other programming languages, I still like Java very much.

Python is not typed and I do not understand how not declaring variables at a central place could be a benefit – it helps me understand the code. Also, I do not like that Python does not allow me to use newlines whenever whitespace is required. Sometimes, a \ is requried to break longer lines and sometimes it is not...
Functional programming
Functional programming is certainly interesting and large programs can be built with it but I do not know how to do that. Also, the thought of mainly processing data with recursion is difficult for me: I try to aviod recursion whenever possible.
Actually, I like C very much, but often I prefer to have a good standard library for just about everything. Besides, I like object oriented programming to structure my program. I am always losing track when writing programs with more than 400 lines and a few files of C. Finally, the memory managing costs time and often leads to segfaults which then need to be debugged which again costs time...

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